I think it retarded the wad a bit. For instance, loads of 12-gauge 00 buck are commonly available in 8 to 18 pellets depending on the lengths from 2 3/4 to 3 1/2. This one was at 7 yards and the spread was about 9 inches. A shotgun shooting a slug is also much more precise than a shotgun shooting buckshot. Wow! A basic understanding of buckshot can help you hunt better. Published Oct 10, 2019 5:15 PM. Thats how animals run off wounded, never to be found. Posts: 1,327. Mean radius is defined as the average of the straight line distances between the Center-of-Shot-Group and each shot (USARIEM TECHNICAL NOTE TN-01/2 STATISTICAL MEASURES OF MARKSMANSHIP Richard F. Johnson Military Performance Division February 2001 U.S. Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine) and was determined by utilizing OnTarget TDS software (OnTarget TDS). I have never seen a choke quite like it. 10" @ 10 yards, 25" @ 25 yards, 50" @ 50 yards. They claim that it is an appropriate choice for shooting through thick brush at an animal. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". The lung shot will kill a deer, but it will run. Living in southern Michigan, where we use shotguns and muzzleloaders for deer. Buckshot patterns fall apart quickly. Yes I have slugs readily available as well. Dave, where you live, shots can be long, and 50 yards is just a chip shot. You've only seen one page. The factory lists the velocity at 1,325 fps. The patterns at 20 yards. If your shots are mostly at 25 or 50 yards, you should consider either a modified choke or full choke tube with smaller shot sizes like #6 or #8 instead of buckshot. Pretty much 100 percent of the pattern will be on the deer. I agree,that's the gun I use and it's a killer. Killed a lot of deer with that combo. I have never seen an 8 pellet load in 00 buck for 12 gauge. No one in their right mind should use a long barrel shotgun for in home security/protection, unless that is all they have. Otherwise, one ends up all over the map. For that matter, I tried some when I was patterning the Remington loading at 25 yards and it only put 5 or 6 on the same type of target as I recall. I load my own buckshot with www.ballisticproducts.com products. In a Mossberg 590A1 CYL, I have seen consistent patterns of less than 6". What would best kill a deer, a one-ounce load of number 8 birdshot, or a one-ounce slug? What shotgun round is best for home defense? At 50 yards they lose a tremendous amount of velocity and energy no matter how fast you start them. Here is what I have observed: Admittedly, there is a lot more to say about buck shot, but I will leave it to the voices of experience to chime in and agree with me or set me straight. We chose those because, well, we like them first of all, but they hold a really tight pattern and its not feasible to do this at 50, 100 yards if youve got the pellets going all over the place. . What buckshot does at 50 yards or choke of the barrel, is really not relevant (other than over penetration) inside ones home or apartment. While my HD gun is loaded with #4 buckshot (my longest shot is no more than 15 yards) .. #1 buckshot has more sectional density than the #4 buckshot so the penetration will be better at distance for any given velocity. At our distances this would mean: From the onset, lets put this standard into perspective. On a 45 yard shot at a poster-board, 3 shots out of 3, all 8 hit the 22x28" posterboard, which leads me to think that the fliers on these 25 yard targets weren't off by far. Note that some of the Dead Coyote shattered. choke had 3 hits in a 8" circle at 25 yards. The Boar Blaster seemed to corral enough of the pellets and put them into the vitals to be a worthwhile buckshot choke option. The final shotgun was a Remington 870. At 25 yards, figure a decent barrel will "pattern" around 30" which is larger than the average human. The target was a large piece of paper at a range of 30 yards. GDubya Registered Joined Mar 25, 2010 1,630 Posts CHRIS: Yeah, so I think if theres any big takeaway here, its that, in most cases and every shotgun is different but your pattern is going to become pretty much useless before the pellets are no longer doing what you want them to do. Shots were fired from a standing position off a makeshift monopod. The most common, and arguably the best buckshot for deer is 12-gauge 00 buckshot in a 2 inch shell. Maybe my barrel likes it more than yours. You have more pellets, but less energy per pellet. Location: Gleason, TN. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Beyond about 30 to 50 yards, the spread from most shotguns becomes too unpredictable to reliably guarantee that any of the pellets will hit the intended target. If you have a personal-defense shotgun or one assigned to you, go out with the load you intend to carry and pattern the shotgun. Federal Premium LE127 00 full power buckshot, 9-pellet Do notice that at longer ranges, the shotgun loses its ability to kill very rapidly. Home Ammunition How Does Buckshot Perform at 50 Yards? The factory shotshells provide a baseline with which to compare the results achieved with the single buckshot pellets shot into gelatin as a verification of the acceptability of simulating long-range hits with single buckshot pellets shot at reduced velocity. Specs: Gauge 12 Gauge. The 000 spreads at a linear rate instead of an exponential one, all the way out to about 50 yards. You must aim more precisely and make better shots with tighter patterns. Of course, all of that is moot if one is using a rifled slug or even the venerable pumpkin ball. Modified choke, by the way, shoots very good patterns with many different loads. CHRIS: I think the gel blocks are 6x6 and at 100, we put two of them side by side so we had a 12x6 area were trying to hit with a big buckshot spread thats only eight pellets. I tried laying the buckshot in pairs in 3 stacks and the patterns were . I know that [#00 buckshot] penetrates a little more at 10 feet in the standard test, and for us, we verified that. CHRIS: Right, so were looking for 12-18 of penetration in ballistic gelatin. As lightly noted by the presenter, the gauge doesnt matter much as far as energy delivered to target by projectiles. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Phil Bourjaily So we set up a couple of blocks and shot it at ten feet. My last deer was shot with 2w Winchester 00 buckshot. M4's don't seem to like those kinds of wads. Hit probabilities measured for each shotshell can be found in Table 1 below. The vast majority of police shootings are close-in affairs. CHRIS: Hey guys, I am Chris from LuckyGunner.com, here with John Johnston from Citizens Defense Research. Past 50 is where I go, hmmmm, I dont know about this.. Close patterns and solid hits are ideal, the spread is nice, but a good central hit with a tight group brings out the true effectiveness of the round. We are compensated for referring traffic and business to Amazon and other companies linked to on this site. If you are the intended victim, you will not have the element of surprise nor the initiative in the opening moments of the conflict two elements critical to the survival of such an event. Dec 25, 2018. Maybe not with the entire load, but enough to Hmmm, how many rounds are we going to fire to get enough pellets into this block?. With spherical shotgun pellets, the only way to increase sectional density is to increase the pellet size. If the Flite Control is not giving you the performance that you desire, try loosening up the amount of choke that you are using. In an 870 Police Magnum shotgun with a 18" IC choke barrel, it will consistently give a 14"-15" pattern at 25 yards. 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If you are shooting No.3 or No.4 buckshot, you should keep it under 30 yards. Check out the video above. They want to take your guns because they plan to do something to you that might cause you to shoot them. Easily. JOHN: Well, they dont pattern with anything and thats the thing I kind of wonder if most of peoples opinion on shotguns are based off of one shotgun they had that they did this one thing with and then never did anything else. Another common type of buckshot is #0 buck. Tungsten Super Shot (TSS) has mostly been a good thing for turkey hunting. From a distance of about 8 feet, the double-barreled shotgun blows pie-pan-sized holes through the wall, cutting down his adversary. Paste as plain text instead, If it seems like I cant recommend hunting deer with buckshot, just keep reading. I stopped using the stuff when I found cheaper shells did much better. Believe it or not, there is a fairly good way to measure the killing power of a bullet. Ballistic gelatin test results of Buckshot at 50 yards distance.Tested ammunition was:12 Gauge Federal #4 Buckshot 27 pellet (F127 4B) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Federal Tactical 00 Buckshot 9 pellet (LE132 00) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Hevi-Shot 00 Buckshot Dead Coyote 9 pellet (42209) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Hornady Critical Defense 00 Buckshot 8 pellet (86240) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Remington Express 000 Buckshot 8 pellet (12B000) 2 3/4\"Shot from a Mossberg 500 12 gauge shotgun with 20\" barrel length and full choke.Very special thanks to RW for facilitating this test. May 22, 2014. Your email address will not be published. The driving determinant of drag force is the velocity that an object travels at in this case the 00 buckshot was initially traveling radially outward at 5 ft/sec while the muzzle velocity of this shell was 1300 ft/sec. but you may find then woefully lacking further . Combat is characterized by rapidly unfolding events taking place unexpectedly and often during periods of low visibility. hembree1 Predator Master Registered: 02/08/11 Posts: 88 . Incidentally, as often happens with buckshot, one of the nine pellets seemed to miss the big piece of cardboard I was shooting at entirely. Well compare the smallest shot size with the largest. The more pellets, the greater chance of a killing shot. Typical patterns for a 410 are the same as a larger gauge . Now, I only tried that one round, but still. Rios Game Load C20 (20 ga 2 3/4 00 Buck) has rather optimistic ballistics. I use BB, F buck, and #4 Buck for hunting Coyotes. Here are five of the craziest-looking "antlered does" we've seen in recent years. And Benny should chime in on this but it has always been my impression that OO is going to pattern tighter than OOO. A load the Brits developed years ago. Up until then, they produced great patterns. All of the shotguns did substantially better than this. I specifically chose the companys Federal Premium Maximum load with nine pellets of 00 buckshot. During my decade at TFB I was fortunate to work with the most amazing talented writers and genuinely good people. ATK was kind enough to supply 12-gauge fodder for the test. Some folks call them hermaphrodites while others swear that they're antlered does. 00 Wolf 12 Gauge Ammo 2 3/4" 00 Power Buckshot 9 Pellets Our Price: $6 (WYMT) - Pikeville Medical Center's Leonard Lawson Cancer Center is expanding after an announcement by Congressman Hal Rogers and Gov The shotgun barrel patterned very well using buckshot , birdshot, and the Winchester PDX1 ammunition 12 Gauge Remington Magnum Buckshot . Buckshot is generally used for two purposes: Self-defense and hunting medium to large game. If I remember correctly, theres only 75 feet per second difference. What load? We need to mention we were using your [Mossberg 590 with a] Vang Comp barrel thats optimized for FliteControl. Moving to a IMP MOD choke, it patterns around 10"-15" inches. We loaded up with Federal 12-gauge 2 3/4-inch magnum 00 Buck with a muzzle velocity of 1,290 feet-per-second and Winchester 2 3/4-inch high-velocity steel BB shot with a muzzle velocity of 1,550. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. The spine and neck are great targets. 000 is impressive. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! CHRIS: Yeah, theyre around 1100 feet per second. I tried several buckshot tubes with regular wadding buckshot, patterns were acceptable to 50 yards. The 00 buckshot he used was not standard velocity, but actually reduced velocity. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. You can post now and register later. 's blog. Ill have to find out if my shotgun will accept a choke to tighten up the pattern as none of us can afford new guns. With a 20-gauge, generally, No.2 buckshot is what you find. I try to keep with the same length shell, 2 3/4 inch, as a common factor. A follow-on test would include #1 buckshot and standard velocity 00 buckshot. 100% are in a 30" circle. The shots were taken as a baseline at the FBI standard distance of 10 feet between muzzle and gelatin block. For comparison, my Benelli M2 (Light mod choke) with Remington Low Recoil rounds (8 pellet) averages around 12-14" at 25 yards and rarely has a flier. You can maximize your shotguns effectiveness by selecting buckshot that is effective out to your maximum planned engagement distance and no further. It never seemed to pattern well. Neither pattern was exceptionally tight. Then there is the lung shot. 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These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. And the other thing, too keep in mind the forward-facing area of those was like, what, 5x6, something like that? Any choke will easily launch #4 buck out to 50 yards. This is a 12.5" pattern, which is not terrible but the better quality Federal, Remington, etc with buffered shot are closer to 10" at 15 yards. The big question has been, is the gain of the weight and effectiveness of each individual pellet worth the loss of one whole pellet? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. in the head of a target for Jerry M. and all 9 rds hit in the head @ 25 yds. If I take an 18-inch circle and put it centered on a deers head, most of the pattern doesnt cover anything vital. Recoil can also be increase with velocity. In apartments and houses one must always be concerned with over penetrationwho is on the other side of the wall. however, I do not recommend firing a load of buckshot at a deers head. The load that is a sure killer at 40 yards may be a crippler at 50. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'guntradition_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_9',112,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-leaderboard-2-0');The individual pellets of No.4 buckshot often dont go deep enough to reach anything good. Cylinder bore shotgun in use. Stuff You Should Know About Buckshot [Part 1], More Stuff You Should Know About Buckshot [Part 2], The Backyard Sniper Lightweight Edition, Why Wont the Ruger Mini-14 Just Die? So IF my pellets had sufficient penetration, I'd say this pattern would be OK for deer hunting. JOHN: So, still potentially lethal absolutely. [Part 2], Why Wont the Ruger Mini-14 Just Die? TSS #4, Kicks GT .670, 50 yards . 2-inch #00 buckshot comes with either 8 or 9 pellets. CHRIS: Yeah, it was around nine inches at 50 [yards]. Heres why. You can always shoot a larger shell if your gun holds them, they are just more expensive and have a serious amount of recoil. 50 feet- pattern: better. Which of the two theories is proper? This serves to give an idea as to how a shotshell will perform at the room distances common during a home defense scenario. That, is some seriously good 40 yard patterning. I will take her target shooting, but I am curious if anyone can tell me what to expect. I recommend RTS Tactical for reliable, rifle-stopping options, Youre worth it. You will have the entire neck in your pattern, twice the lethal coverage. At 30 yards, my shotgun shoots an 18-inch pattern with most buckshot. I suppose I could try the M4 with a Cyl. You cannot paste images directly. Clear editor. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. I'm sure it depends heavily on the load, but the tests in the video were performed with a full-choked shotgun (a Mossberg 500) to give the test the best odds. All shots where taken at 40 yards and with 2 3/4 # 3 buckshot all 20 pellet loads The pictures as follows Winchester brand (unplated shot) Remington brand ( unplated shot) and Federal (copper plated). Cameron had an extra full Primos (IIRC) turkey choke that absolutely threw an awesome pattern (100%, 16-18" @ 50 yards) with Remington 000, the cheap stuff. A good experiement I guess. Try testing #1 buckshot. Federal Premium Vital-Shok Buckshot A true magnum load, the Vital-Shok Buckshot offering from Federal Premium features 12, copper-plated pellets of 00 Buckor 1 ouncespushed to 1290 fps. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_10',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');Buckshot is a close-range option. The idea you need to have a short barrel is foolish, you gain a slight amount of maneuverability for a great sacrifice in accuracy and effectiveness. Personally I prefer #4 buck (NOT to be confused with #4 shot) for home defense. He has earned black belts in four martial arts and is a certified Krav Maga instructor. We tested 12 gauge shotshells utilizing #4, #1 and 00 buckshot (both plated and unplated) to determine the maximum effective range of each type of shotshell when shot through a practical 12 gauge shotgun with cylinder choke. What's the Maximum Effective Range of Buckshot? Shot Size 00 Buck. Size, penetration, and energy all make buckshot more lethal than birdshot. RE: Buckshot for deer. I have personally never had any animal take a step after being hit, but I will say it . . All shots from 7y/21f 'cept one zombie load at 75ft. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. I have owned several and none would keep the pellets on a 12x20" target past about 20 yards or so. Especially when you back off to 40 yards or so. Big pellets dont always follow the same rules that apply to smaller shot. if you are shooting a good patterning, full power load of 12 gauge 00 or 000 buckshot, 50 yards is about the max. I have and do use 3" magnum 00 buck but have no brand preference. Figure 50% hit at 25 yards, but now the pellets have slowed WAY down to around 900 fps or about 110 lb-ft of energy PER PELLET! Some people have the mistaken idea that buckshot is a great option for brush bucking. Ergo why smaller shot needs to be harder to perform equally to larger shot. Logically, less pellets equals a lower hit probability against distant targets. As such, we recommend #4 buckshot for self-defense only if using plated and heavily-buffered shotshells and the anticipated range of engagement does not exceed 10 yards. Many folks think its a toss-up. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". It's better at 25 yards, maybe 3 or 4 balls out of 9. Reply. This gave the reasonable expectation that all shots taken during the dispersion testing were aimed at the center-of-mass of the FLETC Transitional Target II. This particular shotgun has been customized by 870 maestro Hans Vang of Vang Comp Systems. I expected this kind of pattern at 25 or 35 yards. Details in the video below or keep scrolling for the full transcript. Very good info. The maximum effective range of buckshot is 50 yards. It's all about the pattern when it gets to that 50 yards that counts. Okay, now that Ive got you thinking, I will ask why the slug is more lethal. The 223/5.56 is the most common centerfire rifle cartridge in the US. When I pattern with a MOD choke it will open it up to 10"-12" patterns with vertical stringing. Especially when you back off to 40 yards or so. By itself, its not an adequate target. It is perfect for hunting birds and clay targets. Federal Premium LE133 00 low recoil buckshot, 8-pellet 2. The procedure I fired one round of each load from each of the three different choke tubes. All of these shotguns are excellent in my opinion, and Ive pointed both brands at more than a few criminals in my law enforcement career. Still, at least half of your pattern area is missing the animal. This criteria is only for larger buckshot of 1, 0, 00, or 000, though. Pretty lame putting only 66% or so on-target when the remington consistantly does 80-100%. BrianEnos.com The #1 was starting to fail the FBI test it was starting to be underneath the 12-inch penetration. mine will pattern 6" @ 30 yds, after that use a slug. Buckshot size and speed doesnt matter as much as buckshot quality. Display as a link instead, Therefore, bigger pellets will penetrate deeper. Occasionally you'll see a 12-pellet load. Ive got a Beretta 1301 that actually patterns with #1 at 25 about like what your barrel was doing, so probably about the same thing for that particular gun, but Ive got other shotguns that dont pattern like that. Sometimes, what seems like good advice at the time is proven later to be not so great. But lets look into it further yet. I will NEVER take a shot with buckshot past 40 yards. The 00 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled) load maintains a hit probability of 50+% out to 52 yards, which is the limiting factor in maximum effective range because the individual pellets are sufficiently massive and have a high enough velocity to retain terminal effectiveness to a distance of 104 yards. I have tried it. If your duties or circumstances lead you to carry a shotgun for self-defense when outdoors, we encourage you to make use of shotshells utilizing a pattern-controlled shotcup and copper-plated shot pellets. [Federals advertised velocity is 1100 for the #1 versus 1145 for the #00. I noted exactly what you did. Bird shot at close range does not have time to spread and will it as a wad..one also has the wad cup going to hit the person the target as well. Comparing the results between the Mossberg 500 and 590A1 is pretty interesting, as 4 inches less barrel did not make that much of a difference in the spread pattern. I think thats pretty safe to say. Keep Reading. With my Rem 11/87 with a Hastings Turkey choke, I print 15" patterns . The Mission of Cheaper Than Dirt! you have more of gradual taper on the inside of the choke, also known as the "skirt", because the taper looks like a skirt. It made a 33 inch pattern. I founded TFB in 2007 and over 10 years worked tirelessly, with the help of my team, to build it up into the largest gun blog online. I only had one 3" shell, with a full choke at 20 yards I had one hit in an 8" circle. Plenty of shells shoot farther now. At about 20 yards it will put them all in about 6", at 25 yards, 6-10", and past that the Remington 000 outperforms it. 10 Things to Remember When Buying a Tactical Flashlight. A Packable Lever Action: The Chiappa 1892 Alaskan Takedown, Think First, Shoot Second: A Pistol Drill to Mess With Your Head. JOHN: Right. I would like to point out that you can get #2 buck in 20 ga, but only in 3 magnums, if that is of interest to you. The record shows Remington Ammunition has recently discovered an issue related to its 12-Gauge Premier Accutip ammo and issued a recall notice. The combination of penetration and effect favors #00 and this is the load that has seen the most development for personal defense. But, it was a dandy. Dont be tempted to buy the big 3 inch shells with more shot. JOHN: Would you still be hitting stuff at that distance? This variant is very popular and an outstanding home defense and tactical load. If you can guarantee ranges shorter than this for your situation, the shotgun should be the first choice. But this is about the effective range of it, any further you are taking risks of under penetration, and vast spreads that may not hit anything, at least effectively. Using harder lead, or even nickel or copper-plated buckshot, reduces deformation, keeping the buckshot more true in flight. Buckshot is not manufactured by a company that consistently shoots a pattern as tight as Hornady's. I just found this; thank you! 4 Buck and modified chokes because that is probably what we had. The Trulocks claim a 20% tighter pattern with the Boar Blaster, which is about what I saw. 2009-2022 LuckyGunner, LLC. I help equip people with knowledge and skills so they can be safe and effective with firearms. Our agency had tested this load extensively and have found that the more constrictive the choke, (using a standard Remchokes and Benelli CRIO chokes), we get increased pellet deformation we due to the design of the Flite Control wad. Dispersion of buckshot pattern with distance. This video shows the results. What happens to atoms during chemical reaction? My "comfort zone" is 20-35 yards, but I have dropped several past 35 yards. At about 20 yards it will put them all in about 6", at 25 yards, 6-10", and past that the Remington 000 outperforms it. The remaining shotshells were shot at 40 yards distance. Federal Flite-Control 00 Buck-though that's designed as an anti-personnel load for out to 50 yards through riot guns. By If you aim at the lungs, you stand a chance of taking out the spine with the top of your pattern, which would be nice. To many pellets can ruin the effectiveness of the ones you hit with. Posted September 15, 2013 in Ammunition by Steve Johnson with 19 CommentsTags: shotgun. The application referred to here is exactly the one I was looking for and also the exact distances: perfect! Now add a little buffer, wad, or both to further protect the buckshot from deforming, and you're well on your way of having a legitimate 50+ yard, tight patterning buckshot load. Very interesting thanks. Only the back-bored barrel was close to the 1 claim, coming in at .96 per yard. Table of TSS shot 60 yard penetration test data and 9/10 are inside a 20" circle. America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). I only took three shots at 60 yards, here is the data in table format. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Either one sounds like it would work well enough. This particular load includes the Federal FliteControl wad, which improves performance in my experience. JOHN: So for me, I guess the big takeaway was that inside of 25, the shotgun is devastating. Posted: 12/22/2018 6:14:17 PM EST [#1] The 15 yd is smaller than 10 yds , thats pretty impressive ! In my experience patterning buckshot, premium loads pattern better and, not surprisingly, 12 and 15 pellet loads of 00 buck put more hits on the target than does a 9-pellet load. Be OK for deer of 10 feet between muzzle and gelatin block Game load C20 ( 20 ga 2 inch. Youre worth it 50 yards around 1100 feet per second traffic and business to and. Of that is effective out to about 50 yards through riot guns of?!, rifle-stopping options, Youre worth it 40 yards distance for your situation, the only to! Tfb I was looking for 12-18 of penetration and effect favors # 00 and this is the in. 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